Thread: Ethyl Oleate

It seems to me that ethyl oleate or an ethyl oleate/grapeseed oil combination is more or less the perfect combination as it flows REALLY easily (almost like water), and EO has a pretty high capacity for hormones without solvents (its easy to get 50mg/ml of test prop into EO by just warming it). Only 1 UG lab that I know of uses it regularly - Endosyn.

Outside of the fact that some people do have allergy issues with it (but some do with peanut or sesame oil too), and that its a bit more expensive (but in volume the difference starts to dissapear), why don't I see it used or mentioned more often? I don't think i've seen a homebrew recipe anywhere that used EO.

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Ethyl oleate

Ethyl oleate is a compound made by attaching an ethyl ester to an oleic acid chain.

You can find the chemical data here. http://www.chemexper.com/index.shtml.../111-62-6.html

It is very thin and almost clear at room temperature. It has a low boiling point for an oil and is flammable, so keep away from direct flame heating methods. It can flash over once it has reached it's boiling point.

Usage
Ethyl oleate is a very expensive compound and not readily available to the public. Often sold by the gram but is a lighter than water liquid, 1ml is about .87g of product.
It has a fairly high capacity as a solvent on it's own, 50mg/ml of testosterone popionate is readily dissolved with no alcohol. So as a carrier it has great potential for hard to dissolve compounds or high dose compounds.
The most cost effective use would come with mixing it 1:1 with grapeseed oil in your hard to produce home brews. I would not recommend using it with something as simple as 300mg/ml test enanthate, but if you were to make a 400-500mg/ml test blend or single long ester depot it would be a requirement for a pain free shot.

Ethyl oleate also has a reported mild analgesic effect on the site of the depot.

There is the textbook definition. It is more expensive when you are looking at producing 1000's of ml's of testoste *ate at a time. Unless you are trying to reach 400-500mg concentrations(which i NEVER reccommend) you don't need to use anything other than oil, BA/BB.

I think the price difference and the availability of EO are what has stopped it from being used more. I know that i used it extensivle in my test base in oil and winstrol in oil. It definitely makes custom blends easier to achieve.

I used it to make 225mg(i know it is a weird doseage...i wanted to see HOW MUCH i could keep in solution) test propionate. It worked great but when i actually took a shot of it, the pain was crippling for the next few days. So, just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.

I suppose if I ever stumble onto a small enough quantity of winstrol powder that i feel its worth buying I'll try it in EO. 100g is crazy for that, as I know i'd never use it all.

For me the interest in EO is just how thin it is, I don't necessarily feel any deep need for high concentrations, but easy injections are nicer

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

I suppose if I ever stumble onto a small enough quantity of winstrol powder that i feel its worth buying I'll try it in EO. 100g is crazy for that, as I know i'd never use it all.

For me the interest in EO is just how thin it is, I don't necessarily feel any deep need for high concentrations, but easy injections are nicer

the problem with eo is that just because it is thinner, it does not have the same absorbption rate as oil. Every time we mix something in we are affecting the half-life to one degree or another.

We cannot alter how the esther is cleaved from the testosterone but we can alter how much testosterone is readily available. For instance, test base in oil's half-life ends up being longer than the (i think) 8 hours of test in water.

As for the other part of what you are looking for, there are some suppliers (from another palce we have in common) (or pm me) that have winstrol in the 50gram qty.

Also, if you wanted to take the said winstrol and put it in a few dropper bottles filled with everclear, you would also have created an oral suspension. This is not perfect dosing but it is easy and does it really matter if you are taking 48mg of winstrol one day and 52 the next....its all right around 50.

Actually IIRC, test base in oil gets to a 24-36hr halflife. But you are right I didn't consider how EO might change halflifes too.

Man, is it all complicated

On the winstrol, I think eventually i'll either buy premade whether tabs or in oil (not in water). Even 50g is too much, figuring even if I went 100% hogwild and was doing 100mg/day, 50g gets me over 14 months solid on

My HRT doctor would actually allow me to purchase from him, but the pricing is pretty hideous. 50mg/ml 10ml for $110, or 50 tabs for $300. In HRT its primarily used for lowering SHBG

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Actually IIRC, test base in oil gets to a 24-36hr halflife. But you are right I didn't consider how EO might change halflifes too.

Man, is it all complicated

On the winstrol, I think eventually i'll either buy premade whether tabs or in oil (not in water). Even 50g is too much, figuring even if I went 100% hogwild and was doing 100mg/day, 50g gets me over 14 months solid on

My HRT doctor would actually allow me to purchase from him, but the pricing is pretty hideous. 50mg/ml 10ml for $110, or 50 tabs for $300. In HRT its primarily used for lowering SHBG

yeah, chances are the powder would degrade before you were able to realistically use it all. Thats cool that you can buy it from him, it is rather expensive but there is something to be said for being legal.

if I can find 4 other people to split it with, the 50g isn't too bad

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

if I can find 4 other people to split it with, the 50g isn't too bad

very true. EO and guaiacol are kinda weird in my opinion. One is an analgesic and one has mild anesthetic properties. i personally get a weird taste in my mouth when i take a shot of either one(very similar to tren pellet conversions).

I get nervous getting too exotic with the homebrews because of the possible toxicity of some of the solvents involved.

sorry for the question cause im sure it gets old giving an answer but i would be greatful if anyone can tell me what the purpose of ethyl oleate is. i am getting finaplix-h and a conversion kit and saw where it asked if i wanted ethyl oleate also. i just need to kmow what the purpose is and also if you could tell me how many cartridges i should buy in order to get around 150/200mg per ml and what conversion kit? 4g, 6g? i am looking to make 500 ml of it. oh and one more thing please, how many mg should i be taking of the tren per week? thank yall for your time and help with these questions. time to get back in shape. thanks again