Questions for northern

[LeadFarmerMF-er]

Post your questions for northern

First one! If you've tried all of these compounds then which one did you like most: Equipose, 1-Testosterone, Primo. I'm currently using EQ but I'm very interested in the rest of the boldenone family of hormones.

[northern]

Lol, I dont remember signing up for this.

Let me just preface this by saying my goals are different than the majority of people here. I dont lift for aesthetics I lift to improve my Squat, Bench and Deadlift. I dont care if I have calves that are proportional to my legs etc I just need to get those three key lifts up. Sure I would like to have a decent set of abs but to do that would cause my key lifts to suffer slightly or not progress as fast so I dont pursue it. The reason i bring this up is that it probably has a direct impact on why I like certain compounds over others. With that said i'll answer your Q.

I love EQ because it really makes me eat alot. I also like the increase in RBC it gives me as it keeps me slightly pumped all the time and it makes it easier to warm up on training days as blood flow is improved. However I dont take EQ for its anabolic affect because for me there is very little. The only reason I have EQ in cycles is for appetite and RBC if it gives me any size great but I dont add it in for that reason.

Now I personally am a huge fan of strong androgens Tren, Test, Halo, 1-test, masteron, etc. are all things I really like. I like them because they really increase my strength alot AND they are very good at helping me be aggressive. I am a very even tempered person and because of that it has always been hard to get really amped up when lifting. Hell even having people smack the shit out of me just never really got me going. Now my latest trick has been to get on a cycle with heavy androgens and then on training days where i really need it il dose a hefty amount of some oral like Dbol or bolasterone if I have it. I used to use methyl-test for this purpose and really liked it.

So to answer your Q, I dont like Primo all that much. I also have only used it on 2 occassions so maybe thats part of it. Basically I like things that can affect my strength dramatically and my mood when I need it. Because of this things like high dose test and tren are great. Dihydroboldenone (1-Test) is also a real nice on as its jut androgenic enough to get you going, also has pretty decent strength gains to accomodate it.

Now the catch with all this is I am a very hairy motherfucker. My GF has to shave my back and chest weekly and it requires a change in batteries in my razor to do the whole job. This is directly related to heavy use of adrogens. Add to it I generally have mild acne on my shoulders upper back most of the year (due to androgens) and you start to see there are some trade offs.

So to sum it up:

Like: EQ, DHB (1-Test)
Dont Like: Primo

You may find that primo is something that really agrees with you but for me its just not that great. I know tons of guys who LOVE var but for me its just not enough if that makes sense. Sure I can take a ton of it and get super pumped but it does dick all for my aggression so its not that great for what I want.

[LeadFarmerMF-er]

Much appreciated northern! You gave me a lot more info than you know. I'm a very mild mannered person also and even though I push myself very hard in the gym, it's rare that I actually feel "aggressive" toward my lifts. I greatly enjoy seeing my lifts increase but I feel much better when I see my physique improve. The only compounds I have used so far (aside from test obviously) are EQ and dbol. EQ doesn't seem to give me a ton of hunger, at least nothing crazy like some guys get. I'm really enjoying the dbol so far though. I'm seeing my lifts go up as well as a great pump every day in the gym.

I haven't jumped into any heavy androgens yet but I'm sure I will in the coming years. Any recommendations on what to try first from the list of androgenic compounds?

[northern]

I would suggest tren as the first heavy androgen. Sure you could try masteron or halo or even 1-test but I think tren is milder with regards to certain side affects. Masteron for me was really rough on my prostate and body hair. 1-test can cause alot of lethargy if your not used to it or if you dont take enough test with it. Halo is just harsh so it needs to be respected. Tren should give you a very solid idea if you are going to like these compounds.

Every AAS has an androgenic component to it. Please dont think that because I call something an androgen that something else doesnt have androgenic properties. I use the term to create a distinction between compounds that are more anabolic or more androgenic. EQ, Var and Deca are more anabolic. Tren, Halo and test are more androgenic. Just wanted to clarify.

Also I wanted to add a disclaimer here. I'm glad I could answer your Q's but please dont think of me as the end all be all of information. I too knew nothing about the shit at one point and had to spend the time doing the research. Some of what I say is anecdotal experience and some of what I say is based on scientific literature (or current scientific theories). What I currently gave you is anecdotal i.e. my personal experience so take it for what its worth and understand that you may have a subjectively different experience with it. Some guys loose hair on tren and other potent androgens while i dont. This is just an example of something that could be different for you.

[LeadFarmerMF-er]

I'm a big believer in educating yourself as much as possible before making a decision. I'm still very immature with regards to my knowledge of AAS as well as other hormones and performance enhancing drugs. But I wont know how I personally react to all these drugs until I try them in a responsible manner. I'm glad we have an open forum for discussion though, I learn something new every day here.

[tony stacks]

Hey Northern... What are your thoughts on donating blood with on AAS?

[northern]

Well honestly I am torn. I personally do not donate blood because of two reason:

1.) The performance impact I notice for up to 3 weeks after
2.) Destroyed my veins when younger (drug addict) so drawing blood is a nightmare and more often than not I need a Phlebotomist to hit a vein and begin drawing blood.

Most would argue that I am being a pussy for #1. I know many guys who don't notice any deleterious after as little as a day. I personally have only had one successful blood donation (before destroying veins) when I was a runner. It took me 3 weeks to get back to where I was conditioning wise after donating. However I was very thin 120lbs @ 6'1" tall and doing loads of cardio so I imagine I was an extreme case. Honestly i'm like those crazy case studies where a guy takes one asprin and suddenly his skin falls off so people assume "asprin makes your skin fall off".

The question I would pose to you is two fold:

1.) Why do you need it?
2.) If #1 is not just a personal desire than what other methods have you used and specifically why were they not enough?

Generally if blood volume increases way too much to the point that you need to donate then something is wrong. Maybe you are really sensitive to the RBC affects of certain AAS but in my own personal experience while there is some blood volume increase for me @ 260+ it has never been enough to raise my BP significantly hell if it raises my BP I honestly do not know it. Granted I have slightly elevated BP due to genetics and weight (130/78-140/90) but even when running compounds that do increase the blood volume this rarely changes.

Again though this is all personal experience. To add some fact to this I did a quick search and founds some tidbits.

Preliminary research is being done that shows men and women who donate blood are less likely to have heart disease. Now I would counter that by saying "well people conscientious enough to donate blood are also probably going to be healthier than the average person" i.e. how many drunk truck drivers who weigh 350 do you know that regularly donate blood. However the reason for this appears to be due to reducing iron levels as this is thought to increase the risk of heart disease. So the upshot is there may be some mild benefit.

Some more reading shows that the changes in blood pressure due to donation only last a couple of hours to a day at max. Blood volume is also quickly recovered (9 hours is the longest figure I have seen). The only thing that takes any significant times is iron levels which can take up to 8 weeks to get back to normal (no average time of recovery was found in my quick search). Red Blood Cells also come back in 2-3 days for the majority of the population.

So the question is does donating blood really help if the changes are temporary at best?

I know this isnt an answer but it should generate some discussion or at least give you an idea of what the literature states. Let me know if there is anything else.

[kevinp]

hi bro. your thoughts on removing excess iron. thanks

[tony stacks]

Thanks for the reply bro. The blood drive was a deal for school at my union hall. I was denied due to recent tattoos and past IV drug use. I guess I figured since it was so long ago and I've been tested for diseases that it would be ok. Guess not. I was denied for life so that puts an end to that. Lol

[70nova]

LOL..looks like Notherns start to his own website. Soon he is going to have a donations tab.

[northern]

hi bro. your thoughts on removing excess iron. thanks

Honestly I have not seen enough research to see it as necessary. Now I do eat a decent amount of red meat but I dont eat it daily. My iron levels are moderate i.e. right in the middle of the scale. The issue I have with studies suggesting donating blood to reduce Iron is we dont know what the pool of people making donations is like. See my original post about people who don't donate could easily be 300 lb couch potatoes and people who do donate could be thin, fit and trim adults.

I personally would not do it but then I also do not feel the need to take supplemental iron. The best way to determine if you need to is with some blood work and even then I think the literature is still spotty at best that it will be of benefit.

[northern]

LOL..looks like Notherns start to his own website. Soon he is going to have a donations tab.

If I started my own website the likelihood of me ever getting job would go to 0. There would be 1000's of posts by me but I would be some homeless dude posting from coffee shops and internet cafes, getting in a few minutes of research before I got kicked out for body odor issues.

[kevinp]

i don't take supplemental iron, but my iron is way up. triple H. my dr. said donating will lower my iron , bit i have to limit my iron intake. he also said excessive iron can lead to coranary disease. i donate today, it's the 3rd time since i found out i had high iron. we'll see what it is when i go in.

[Poutylips6669]

just a question??? doesnt being on gear screw with your liver/cholesterol and other organs??? big guy got some bloodwork back and the cholesterol level is high and so are the liver enzymes... going in tomorrow for repeat bloodwork ...I wouldnt think to donate unless bloodwork is 100% clean???

[kevinp]

a person can donate. there is a place on the question thing about to use the blood or not. though i have been told donating lowers iron and a few other things, i never heard it in congunction with high chol. and enzymes. women who menstrate don't get iron build up and some other blood issues as easily.

but look into it cuz it may help. many people still believe in blood letting on a regular basis is good for ones health. we'll see how my iron is shortly.